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    By JanetheWriter
    recent post on her blog by Rabbi Phyllis Sommer (aka Ima on (and off) the Bima) reminds me that Baruch College could learn a thing or two from Isaac and Moishe Nava, proprietors of La Casa de Isaac, a Jewish-Mexican restaurant in the suburbs of Chicago that's closed on Shabbat.

    This week at Baruch, it's time to register for the spring semester and as is the minhag of the school, students, based on the number of credits earned to date, are assigned a specific timeslot in which to complete their online registration.  Although I certainly am not shomer Shabbos in the traditional sense, I do enjoy celebrating Shabbat and the holidays in a liberal sort of way.  I was dismayed, therefore, to receive an email notifying me that my online registration appointment is this Friday, November 14 at 8:15 p.m. 

    By assigning me this timeslot (before which the system will not accept my registration), Baruch has very effectively disrupted my plans to shul shop and, in fact, to observe Shabbat in my own, personal way.  And, while I might consider waiting until after Shabbat to register for the spring semester, in so doing, I risk being closed out of the specific section and course that I wish to take, one of only two core courses that remain in my curriculum.

    So, should I just "suck it up" and register on Friday night?  Wait until after Shabbat and risk losing a seat in the course I need?  Request a different appointment, knowing that in so doing I may end up with a more undesirable timeslot during the following week?  Or, should I register when assigned and then try to contact the appropriate office in the behemoth CUNY system to oppose the Friday night assignment? 

    At this point, I'm just not sure...  What would you do?

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    David A.M. Wilensky said:

    Last fall, at the end of my first semester of college, I had a final scheduled on a Saturday afternoon. I informed the professor that I could not take it at that time. I was allowed to take it the following Monday instead.

    So I think you know my answer.

    Larry Kaufman said:

    I think you need to raise hell -- starting right now. If they give you a worse time, like one that requires getting up earlier than normal people do, as long as it's earlier than the "assigned" time, live with it -- but interfering with Shabbat and not accommodating the religious needs of Jewish students is bad policy. Do they really want a story in the New York Times that Baruch (Baruch!) is insensitive to its Jewish students?

    After I finish this comment, I'll follow the link to the local Jewish-Mexican restaurant -- I'm not into Mexican food, but at least I need to know about shomer-shabbat Mexican!

    William Berkson said:

    What David and Larry said. Go for it.

    David Levy said:

    Actually, you most likely don't need to raise hell, you probably just need to ask nicely. Most colleges are very accomodating for this sort of thing, and I'm sure you're not the first person to request a change of time from them because of Shabbat.

    Brendan Howard said:

    I'm always dismayed by some people's reactions to fairly innocuous things, like a college's computer automatically assigns you a sign-up date that falls during Shabbat hours. Raise hell? Write up bad press? Scream to the newspapers? Hey, what about bearing no guilt while letting someone know they're doing something wrong? Give everyone the benefit of the doubt. It's a simple mistake.

    David Levy's advice is right on. Also, Larry Kaufman's advice is right-on (except for the screaming meemies prematurely to the press). Whatever time they give you, within reason, outside of Shabbat hours, should be adhered to. It's not the world's responsibility to make us comfortable in honoring Shabbat. It's OUR responsibility to do our utmost to negotiate our way through life to honor our religious commitments and accept the difficulties it may entail during our "regular working hours."

    JanetheWriter said:

    Thanks, all, for the sage advice.

    The email I received that assigned my registration timeslot said at the bottom, "Kindly do not reply to the above email address." Therefore, I have just sent an email to the executive director and associate director of Hillel at Baruch outlining the issue, which, for all I know, they may or may not know about.

    Stay tuned...I'll keep you posted.

    M. B. said:

    Jane, you might try calling the Registrar's office to discuss it with them. Like Brendan and David Levy suggest, I have always found most people more than willing to accommodate you if they simply understand the problem. After all, there are times when Protestants and Catholics need to take off from work too. They have people from many religions at college. "Raising hell" about this without having given them an opportunity to work something out through proper channels strikes me as unjustified.

    I have also seen people abuse religious excuses. A not so pious Catholic, took off for all the holidays, then started taking off for Jewish holidays, too. He might have gotten away with it if he hadn't tried to get off for Buddhist holidays as well. Pigs get fat, but hogs get slaughtered.

    William Berkson said:

    By the way, on shul shopping, for a unique experience try the Shul of New York:
    http://www.theshulofnewyork.org/

    My children attend there, and I've really enjoyed the services when I've visited on a week-end. Rabbi Burt Siegel leads a joyous service, and the music is just amazing and uplifting. I see now they're not regularly meeting in the Orenzatz center, the oldest Synagogue building in NY, but when they do it also adds to make a unique spiritual experience.

    On their web site, check the link to the NY Times article on their music.

    JanetheWriter said:

    Update: This morning I received a reply from the executive director of Hillel at Baruch thanking me for the information and indicating that he "will ask Rabbi Miller to check into this and see if there is anything that can be done."

    To be continued...

    OrthodoxLurker said:

    Speak to Abe Tawil @ Hillel He's awesome!

    Abbie Kenyon said:

    I would still register after Shabbat. After all, the computer does not recognize various calendars,nor days and time zones which vary from country to country. One day in one country is not necessarily the same say in another country.
    One can never register before, but one can always register after the registration appointment day and time, usually with little or no serious consequences.

    JollyBlue said:

    Having worked in university settings, here's what you should do:

    1. Contact the nearest Hillel; I assume there's one on your campus, but if not contact Hillel International in Washington DC to find the nearest. This will give you someone to help advocate on your behalf, which keeps them from treating you as a whiny, ignorable student.

    2. Contact your Dean, TODAY, and explain the situation. The Dean's job is to help with situations just like this.

    3. Contact Student Affairs. SA's job is protecting students' legal rights; I would say "religious discrimination" counts.

    Potential solution: your Dean should be able to hold spots in the courses you need, meaning you can register after Shabbat safely. Either way, definately keep fighting this publicly until the system gets corrected; modern universities should know better, especially ones in New York.

    JanetheWriter said:

    Update: Earlier this morning, Rabbi Miller, Baruch's rabbinic chaplain, called me from Israel to follow-up on yesterday's email. After talking with him, I called the registrar's office and left a detailed message for the person to whom I was directed when I said I wanted to speak to someone about changing my registration timeslot for religious reasons.

    I also indicated to Rabbi Miller that -- given the short timeframe -- even if nothing can be done in time for this registration cycle, I am more than willing to work with him and the administration to ensure that such scenarios are avoided in the future.

    More to come...

    phyllis said:

    I agree, asking nicely has its benefits. Cc'ing important people on the email helps too...

    (thanks for the link!)

    Ed said:

    Perhaps it's a generational thing, but I think there's a bit of immaturity showing.
    It's not as though they scheduled you at 4:30 on a Friday AFTERNOON, making it really difficult to get home for Shabbat. It's 8:30 IN THE MORNING, for Pete's sake!
    In my book -- as a 68-year-old -- that's far before the start of Shabbat, and nothing nefarious is signified. If you whine, you will be considered (at least by me and those like me) as a bit . . . uh . . . rigid and particular. (It's like the ex-wife of a client of mine who could not consider changing visitation from Wednesday to Tuesday to accommodate his business trip, because Tuesday is the night when she vacuumed the house, and she needed the children to carry the vacuum sweeper tools. . . )
    If I were your father, I would probably say something like "Grow up, and do your shopping on Thursday. Go to the appointment Friday morning, and make sure either to schedule your classes as conveniently as possible -- or to find a way to change your life pattern. But don't expect the university to change just for you."
    Of course, I was always pretty direct with my daughters -- one of whom is now an organizational developer and the other an epidemiologist, so it didn't hurt them too much.

    Avi said:

    Why not ask a non-Jewish friend to complete your registration for you?

    Michelle Gillespie said:

    I'm not Jewish but I work in a Jewish Synagogue. I really enjoyed reading this blog. I agree that asking nicely is the way to go. Unless you know for a fact that this was done intentionally, you should treat it as a simple mistake and act accordingly as you would have someone treat you if you were on the other end.

    JanetheWriter said:

    Ed,

    Although I appreciate your comments, please note that the registration time that I've been assigned is THIS EVENING at 8:15 P.M.

    Ed Weissman said:

    Actually (to the other "Ed"), it's 8:15 PM, not AM.

    I agree with David Levy's sage advice, but I also understand that dealing with the CUNY bureaucracy is likely to be frustrating and possibly not initially productive, having a stepdaughter attending a CUNY school.

    I know what it's like to ask a secular organization to show sensitivity to Jewish concerns. Growing up in a town in north New Jersey with a large (though not majority, at that time) Jewish population), the Jewish students in the high school graduating class (including myself) requested that none of the Christian clergy speaking at the graduation invoke the phrase "in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord". The high school administration, and later the school board, rejected our request; ultimately benedictions were eliminated entirely from the graduation ceremony.

    In the short run, that may not help you out (though I certainly hope that you succeed on the first attempt!), but if you work your way up the line persistently, but not kicking and screaming, you will probably succeed at some point. In doing so, you'll have honored the position of treating others with the same respect that you ask for others in dealing with you, and will gain a reputation of being level-headed.

    There's a sad irony that you should be dealing with this issue at a college named after a famous Jewish financier and philanthropist.

    Rabbi Stanley Halpern said:

    Sadly, this is not a new issue. In the late 60's when I was at the University of Washington in Seattle, the only day instructors could sign overloads to allow extra students into classes we needed was Yom Kippur. We complained to the Office of the President and were told that "Our God gave us a bad calendar"!

    D. Kochavi said:

    I am also a student enrolled at Baruch and in the same situation as you are. I received my registration time for tonight at 7:15 pm. I had the same exact thoughts about contacting the Baruch administration but had the feeling that they would not be sensitive to the situation and would offer me a different slot at a worse time, or tell me that I don't need to register at exactly that time - it's only the earliest that I can register.
    Knowing the bureaucracy that I would face, I decided not to contact the school and figured that I would complain once I was not allowed into the classes that I need to take to complete graduate in May.
    I had a similar situation when I attended University of Albany for undergrad and they actually had the head of the school register on my behalf. This is something that you should present to the Baruch administration.
    I am not quite sure why we are even given registration times that are not between the 9-5 time slot and certainly don't think it is appropriate to be given one on the weekend.
    Please keep us posted.

    Faye Merritt said:

    I feel certain that would have been a computer generated timeslot. Just call someone, I'm sure they'll be accomodating. Back in the day, 1973 - 1975, I worked in the Registrar's Office at Baruch. Funny how I just happened upon this article. Good shabbos.

    JanetheWriter said:

    One last update before Shabbat --

    In my email exchanges and phone conversation yesterday with Rabbi Craig Miller, Baruch's rabbinic chaplain, he asked that I keep him and Abe Tawil, executive director of Baruch's Hillel in the communication loop. I have just sent the email below to Rabbi Miller with a cc: to Dr. Tawil:

    Dear Rabbi Miller,

    This morning, having not received a call back from the registrar's office in response to the message I left there yesterday, I contacted the graduate office at the School of Public Affairs to see if there was someone in that office with whom I might speak. I was told that, indeed, the registrar's office is the right one for the issue I raised.

    I just called the registrar's office in one last attempt to reach someone there today. A recorded message indicates that "due to very high call volume, no agents are available. Please visit us at...." There is no option to leave a message. Because I was not able to speak with anyone in the registrar's office, I have not been in touch with Ron Aaron [Vice President for Student Development], but will contact him next week if you think it might be helpful in any way.

    At this point, however, I believe that I have taken this issue as far as I can regarding tonight's registration timeslot. However, as I indicated to you when we spoke yesterday, I would be more than happy to pursue this matter after the fact to ensure that it is not an issue for me or for other students in subsequent semesters. (FYI, I've been blogging about this matter at http://blogs.rj.org/reform/2008/11/closed-on-shabbat.html and as you'll see in the comments section at the end, there is at least one other student -- and others, I suspect, -- who are equally dismayed and frustrated.)

    In any event, I thank you for your time and willingness to be helpful here and hope that we might be able to work together to make a positive change at Baruch for the future.

    Shabbat shalom and thank you again.

    Thank you, too, to the many readers of this blog who have posted encouraging words and helpful suggestions. They are much appreciated. I wish you all a Shabbat shalom.

    sixsonnets said:

    Wonderful article but unfortunately a dfficult issue. Thank you for the pointing out the great irony of "Baruch" - but I think unfortunately this is another computer-generated issue. Best of luck and thank you for standing up for Shabbat!

    Benjamin said:

    Almost a pantheon of religious freedom progress and failure.
    That higher education has become it's own worst automated enemy is another irony. The demand affirms the need and the solutions become the problem. Where are the sufficient numbers of paid / hired humans to make the system work?

    Though a digression, I am reminded of being in Israel last July, on Friday afternoon. With Shabbat "looming" my wife and I desperately sought out a grocery store to buy enough food, etc. until Saturday night. It really isn't a problem in Tel Aviv, ofcourse, but we were in Maoz Tzion, and not in the mood for Arab food, again. So Shabbat is such a blessing that it forces everyone to do better planning, even in the Holy Land.

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